'Kaleidoscope': Jai Courtney and Rosaline Elbay on Jumping Timelines and Cracking Safes

They also discuss how to watch it in any order and which order was the most difficult to film.

Netflix's upcoming anthology series Kaleidoscope is heading into 2023 in a huge way. Created and categorized so that viewers can watch it in any order, Heist Mystery chronicles a quarter of a century, starting 24 years before the crime, and the months after, with incredibly high stakes. A group of highly skilled thieves will attempt to break into the most secure vaults in the United States and the world, and will spend as much as $7 billion, divided among six.

Kaleidoscope star Giancarlo Esposito as Leo Papp, who, with $7 billion in chips on his shoulders, is the mastermind of the operation, which has his eyes on arch-nemesis and corporate mogul Roger Salas ( Rufus Sewell). Pap commands a team of specialists, each with a specific skill set, played by Paz Vega, Peter Mark Kendall, Jordan Mendoza and rising star Rosaline Elbay as explosives expert Judy Goodwin and Jai Courtney as safe cracker By Bob Goodwin.

Collider's Steve Weintraub had to discuss the series with Elbay and Courtney before Kaleidoscope began streaming on Netflix. In their interview, Elbay and Courtney explain the format of the series, how No sequence loses sight of the central focus, and what kind of experience it provides for the viewer. During filming, Courtney shared what he learned and discussed a difficult scene that only a handful of actors face. Check out all of this and more in the video above, or you can read the full interview below.

COLLIDER: Rosaline, I'm going to start with you. individual questions. I've seen the work of Jai [Courtney] up close, and he's what we call a diva. I'm curious, what's it like working with someone who's difficult on set and always trying to steal other people's lines?

ROSALINE ELBAY: I'm really glad someone finally asked me about my experience because I felt silent for a very, very long time. There are a lot of open secrets in the industry about people like Jai, and it's been going on for far too long. You don't know, I actually got an extra hiring fee to take care of Jai.


ELBAY: But, no, I mean he's a nightmare. This is so bad I'd love to have it printed. thanks You are so much.

Listen, when you interview him, it's a nightmare too. He's always trying to avoid questions... I'm kidding.

JAI COURTNEY: She seems to have all the answers, so she'll start there. Rose.

One of the craziest things about this series is that you can watch it in any order. When you guys were first told this information, were you guys like "Get the F out of here. This will never work."

Courtney: Yeah. It was a weird thing and definitely an original concept that you knew would be a challenge to execute. But I think what they've been able to make with these episodes, as a pilot if you will, is really, I don't know, really, really good. Every viewer will start at a completely different place in the story and get a completely different trajectory. And I think it's really fascinating to create this unique experience for the audience, and it also forces people to put their phones down, pay attention, and investigate things. I think it creates something really interesting and special that I think people are going to have a ball.

It's not as complicated as it sounds. I don't think it's confusing on any level. We have a central point where you are never too far away from understanding our geography. You can project yourself into the future and the past, and you can even jump in and out of small intervals of time. That's one of my concerns, is, does having [episodes] close together confuse people's tracking? I don't think that's the case at all. I've watched the whole show and I think it's achieving something really interesting and special.

I've watched three episodes so far, and watched them exactly as Netflix sent me. But I'm curious, did anyone say a certain order to you to watch them?

COURTNEY: No. There's slight conversation around, "Oh, do you want to jump here and jump there?" But that's beside the point. I remember, at some point in my early reading, I knew that a person would exist in chronological order, so I had to resist the urge to read that way. But it's all about, I don't know, investing in what the show's concept is supposed to accomplish, and it serves the same purpose.

Herbert: Yes.

For both of you, I love watching heists on TV and in the movies. It's just one genre that I can watch endlessly. What was it like making a heist show like this?

ELBAY: Your work. security breach.

Courtney: Yes. I know, right.

ELBAY: Really interesting. I mean it's really cool to do something like this, you have a lot of fun things to do as an actor and a lot of skills that you have to learn. But at the same time, being able to do that on a show where these characters also have so much heart and depth. It feels like being able to do pretty much everything you wish you could do in this job.

COURTNEY: I learned how to open a safe, which was fun.

Did you really do it? real?

Courtney: Yes, really. yes, really. It's a very interesting technique, and it's actually quite simple. you only need to have A deft sense of touch and perception, not so much involved. I'm honestly surprised more people aren't walking around cracking safes.

ELBAY: If he could share anything with the world, it would be to open the safe.

Courtney: Yes.

In each of these episodes, which shot or segment ended up being the real pain point? Was there a particular shot that, for technical reasons, ended up being really challenging anyway?

COURTNEY: I don't know about the injection itself. Part of the story is that we spend a lot of time submerged in water, or part of the team does. This gets old fast.

I've heard of it.

Herbert: Yes. There is a lot of humidity. There were two episodes that were just [constantly] sprayed and soaked in water, and there was a lot of filming, I think mostly of summer outdoor scenes in winter in New York.

Courtney: Oh, yes.

Herbert: Yes. That's... I'm blue.

Courtney: Yes. Rose managed to wear short skirts throughout the New York winter. It's always discussed because we're like, "Okay, what's wrong with this season of the show? Where are we?" Because it's actually one of those things that doesn't necessarily have to come into play too specifically. On days when they shovel snow from the road, it should definitely look warm, which is painful. But we love what we do. You have to be careful about complaining.

No, exactly. Listen, I'm lucky to do what I do. You are so lucky to do what you do. But I do think viewers don't really realize what it takes to make a TV show and how long it lasts.

Courtney: Yes. very cool.

But it's really a lot of work.

COURTNEY: It was intense, and, of course, I thought it would be fun to go into the rain tower in sub-zero temperatures - I'm talking degrees Celsius - but in the fourth hour at 3:00 am, you Really start to question some of your life choices.

ELBAY: Remember we are actors. The crew had been there for three hours before we got there. it's leaving Three hours later...

COURTNEY: Yes. But they can wear rain gear and GumBoots, you know what I mean?


Kaleidoscope is now only available on Netflix. For more on the series, watch our interview with Giancarlo Esposito and Tati Gabrielle.

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